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You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Thread starter Chawanwit Start date May 25, Joined Jul 7, Posts Likes Narrowed by choices down to 3 options.

Favor the Decibel because of the price, Amarra because of its name, and Aurivana Plus because of its great reviewed lately. Been reading articles from Headfonia and Currawong all day and cannot decided which one between the three.

My budget are around these three options so anyone please help me make a decision! So I can finally move on with life! Joined Mar 10, Posts 10, Likes 6, Depends what your use case will be. Personally, I love Amarra. It has the worst GUI but best sound and is the priciest. However I like BitPerfect for ease of use.

It is out of sight only in the menue bar offers gapless playback, buffering, upsampling and integer mode. It's also the cheapest and most 'fuss free. Quote: paradoxper said:. Click to expand Quote: chawanwit said:. I would say the sound quality is quite similar all-around. Subtle is the word I'd use to describe the differentials.

However for some that makes the difference worth it. Personally, I haven't spent extensive time with Amarra Hifi, so I couldn't honestly say. Thanks for your help, since you mention that the sound quality is quite similar and the Bit perfect is much easier to use and cheaper, I guess I will purchase Bit Perfect.

However, I just came across someone mentioning Fidelia with the FHX add-on for headphone as a very good music player for headphones. Have you personally tried it? Also do you mean that in general terms, music software beside the iTunes such as Bit perfect, Amarra, Decibel, Pure Music are an significant improvement over iTunes but among these music software themselves do not differ much by sound quality but differs by features and interface?

All of the aforementioned are good alternative to using Itunes standalone. For me, Amarra has the best SQ and I generally use it for more high-res music. BitPerfect is the most used for me, the ease and convenience it offers makes it a 'better' program than Amarra. Surely you realise that bit-perfect is an absolute. I can't find it out now, but amirm has a test graph of stereo separation for one of the DACs he tested which shows a blurry line in the middle instead of a clean one.

It surprised him in an otherwise perfect measurement performance. He mentions that he did the test with Audirvana playback.

I'd suggest amirm do some bit perfect playback tests between Audirvana and the applications I mentioned but Amir is a Windows lifer, considering his past.

He could test Audirvana against foobar which I also successfully tested on OS X for identical bit-perfect playback though the OS X foobar is a limited feature beta version. Oh, and my opinion, Audirvana sweetening is successful for most music. Damien knows what his business as a coder and he's got a good ear. Just don't claim it's bit-perfect. Still, I'm astonished to find so many Audirvana users among men of science though.

What a strange world. My one serious criticism of the built-in sweetening in Audirvana: Plisson should allow users to turn off the Audirvana filters with a checkbox to allow real bit-perfect playback. Tks Major Contributor. Joined Apr 1, Messages 3, Likes 5, Jimbob54 Master Contributor Forum Donor. Joined Oct 25, Messages 8, Likes 11, Nango Major Contributor. MediumRare said:. I see on various forums that different music players have different SQ.

A hardware manufacturer told me the same thing just last week. And personally, I think I hear a benefit to Audirvana. And yet, bits are bits, right? So, amirm , please save us from this mystery: Do these players deliver different bits or clock speeds or jitter or "musical ether" to a DAC via USB? Does it matter if you have "good" DAC? Nango said:. Must be something between the bits, even kinda vacuum Alec Kinnear Member Forum Donor.

Joined Jan 28, Messages 63 Likes Jimbob54 said:. Then the publisher is either playing both ends against the middle or you are misunderstanding some of his utterances.

But this page is pretty clear Tks said:. Can I read the paper with the tests performed? A link would be appreciated. I'd like to see how it was performed to make sure there aren't any appreciable invalidation potentials.

Those of you asking me to test this: I have. I already owned two bit-perfect players and bought another two bit perfect and installed another open source bit perfect player to test against Audirvana.

Audirvana sounded "better" but it was the only one of five or six players to sound different. All testing on OS X Measuring the difference: the difference is subtle enough the only way to measure it besides with one's ears would be to pipe the output back into a high quality input interface and diff the files.

The difference between Audirvana and bit perfect is clearly audible. Veri said:. Sounded "better", "clearly audible", bla-bla-bla. Still waiting for anything other than plausible explanations Alec. So far you've got nothing. Yes, there are other "things" in the signal processing besides oversampling algorithms in Audirvana's software which improve sound quality.

Feel free to try yourself with the trial period. Side to side tests with five different bit perfect players which all sound identical on 96 kHz 24 bit tracks vs Audirvana which offers heightened stereo separation stereo processing and slightly more presence a subtle boost in the mid-treble is nothing? Publisher's own claim to improve the sound is nothing?

Guys are you too indolent to open up Audirvana and compare its output with a couple of other bit perfect players through your own DAC and amplification system speaker or headphone, the effect is strong enough to hear even via speakers? Or are you so untrusting of your own ears that you cannot do a simple AB test to check sound even against distinctly audible difference? I was looking for a player for HD files in the end I decided I don't really care about playback of HD files, unless offered affordably streamed , trialed Amazon HD, didn't like it, discovered and bought Primephonic for HD classical - two month free trial ; half price first year while it lasts - which I really enjoy.

For pop and folk, I'll stick to Spotify and deal with its sound limitations for now apparently hires is coming. In fairness to Audirvana, the sweetening probably applies to CD and MP3 files as well did not thoroughly test this, thoroughly tested hires PCM and DSD , thought the sweetening probably works best with higher quality masters requires clean input. If you Veri and several others run the side by side test and come back with input which differs from mine, i. If you also hear the same improvement I did, then it's time for someone who is set up to record back high resolution audio bit perfectly and diff the files to test several players vs Audirvana.

This test involves recording back the output of actual HD music files at at least 96 kHz 24 bit, not some test tones at It requires pro gear and the attendant expertise. I don't own Audirvana, my trial has expired and I'm not set up to do that high resolution recording right now so I won't be able to do that part of the test for you. Please link us to that support thread.

It was a direct customer interaction in French. Are you seriously falling back on the argument that BaaM is a liar and that his screenshot of his chat with Damien Plisson is a forgery? No, I like to read the full context of a discussion rather than selected excerpts. Bottom line is that these programs work well to output bit-perfect audio. Beyond that, I'm happy to own both Decibel for its simplicity and flexibility in playing all kinds of formats as well as Audirvana Plus for the full feature set including DSD playback and DST decoding.

I just don't see any evidence that they sound any different Since the software supposedly bypasses CoreAudio, I would have thought that "Integer Mode" would be an obvious given.

They also talk about bit processing which is great if one has need for the SRC and dithering iZotope-based